The Universe Conspires was posted by Shari on Wednesday, February 21, 2007 under Uncategorized. It currently has 17 responses. You can add your own, or trackback from your site.
I despise the NPA. I don’t believe in what they fight for. They just say that they’re pro-people but look at those who are the the top position(they’re uberly rich just like the people they bash); they’re not the people. They don’t represent the ones they claim they represent. The NPA is using the people. All they want is to take over and monopolize the state… Deception….
I’m not pro “empowering the oppressed”(because the idea does not necessarily mean FAIR treatment at all)… I am pro working our asses off and getting what we really deserve. I am pro FAIRNESS. Some people who are at the bottom deserve to be there because they wait for miracles to come rather than finding ways to improve themselves. While some people at the top deserve to be there because they started from scratch and made their way up FAIR and SQUARE. Besides, it’s not difficult to “pass” as oppressed.
In applied communism, nobody gets what they deserve..those who deserve less get more of what they deserve; those who deserve more get less of what they deserve. If we allow the NPA to dominate the state, we will end up like North Korea. They have money for nuclear projects but no money for buying food. Freaky. It is not far that the NPA will do the same thing if ever they take over. I’d rather have a disbanded Philippines rather than them taking over.
I had a classmate who is from an NPA-dominated area in Tarlac. Baka magbago isip mo kapag narinig ko mga kuwento niya.
The only way to get the Philippines going is encourage people TO WORK THEIR ASSES OFF. Nobody can help ourselves but US; but the sad thing here is MOST Filipinos have the “gimme-gimme” mentality and self-pity syndrome. It’s not about being oppressed or being on top(because even people on top are being oppressed and discriminated against), it’s about working our asses off. It’s the culture that’s pulling the country down..The tamaditis and crab mentality syndromes. You think those “beggars” in the overpass in Baguio are poor? Heck, they’re even richer than the middle class. Yung isa kong classmate, nakita niya yung isang “pulubi” nagwithdraw sa ATM ng maraming pera.
It’s still a million dollar question to many Filipino how the ethnic Chinese were able to pull themselves up.. The answer is already there but it seems that many cannot see it.
The Wowowee incident is a proof that Filipinos what INSTANT money. They want money but they don’t want to work for it. Hinihintay na mahulog ang mangga mula sa puno.
Remember that the ww2 was a great equalizer. Even the people of Spanish descent had to start from scratch but they were able to recover…how come not the native Filipino? I’m now convinced that JUAN TAMAD is your typical Filipino.
The ethnic Chinese in the Philippines didn’t have these… look at where they are now. They were once notoriously discriminated against(50’s and 60’s) but now, they are the captains of our economy. Once upon a time, they were underdogs of the society… now they run our economy(maybe if not because of them, we wouldn’t have any economy right now). The ethnic Chinese were already starting to climb up the socio-economic ladder at the height of discrimination against them; when Marcos abolished many anti-Chinese legislature and granted many Philippine-born Chinese Filipino citizenship, it accelerated their participation in the NATIONAL ECONOMY. Sad thing though, because of jealousy of the non-Chinese majority, they are made scapegoats for all the country’s woes.
Not unless we GENUINELY learn from our mistakes, nothing will happen. Most likely, we’ll remain like this for a long time. FIlipinos keep on repeating the same mistakes…ALWAYS. That’s why I don’t believe in “people power revolution”. Especially the second one. 1 million, 2 million who protested?? Come on, it’s not democracy9which is rule of the MAJORITY). When Marcos was ousted, there were 2 million(daw) who participated out of the 65 million Filipinos. During Erap, it was 1 million out of 80 million(Manila with a 12 million population… still not the majority)… What the Philippines have right now is pseudo-democracy.– voice of the NOISY minority disguising as the “majority”.
Do what your heart tells you. Look at me. I can’t sing, can’t dance, have no theatre experience, and heck, I didn’t even know I’m ANYTHING BUT an alto, but I still went and auditioned for Avenue Q!
KT: I believe I’ve answered most part of your comment in earlier discussions about this. So instead, I’m gonna say that you have your own set of beliefs, reinforced by your friend from one NPA-infested town in Tarlac. And that generalization is not a very good idea when it comes to this thing. Not all NPA members are what you make them out to be. There’s bound to be a black/whitesheep in a group of people.
Re: empowering the oppressed, it doesn’t mean that we’d give (almost) absolute power to them, rather, give them power to fight for themselves and claim what’s rightfully theirs in the first place. And note the keyword you used: some people are there because they deserve to be there. That’s not even most. And as one foreign businessman puts it during the Martial Law era, not all working capitalists are opportunistic bourgeois, and vice versa. But then, our theories only extend to what our experiences are; and in mine, 99% of the people I know work their asses off, giving their all, but still more down than ever. If you’d give me a valid explanation why that’s the case, I might agree with you that it’s the typical Pinoy “Juan Tamad” mentality. But until then, I stick to the fact that while some people do wait for their blessings without doing nothing, most Filipinos deserve more than what they’re getting right now. The farmers and fishermen all work harder than both my parents put together, and they get a measly amount of money everyday. You want fair? Tell them that. The workers in Hacienda Luisita used to get PhP9.50/week, and they work more than 8 hours/day. You want fair? Tell them that. The farmers work hard to produce the food we eat, but still they have no land of their own, thanks to the greedy landlords who hold majority of the Philippine’s lands and still get a large percentage of the farmers’ money. You want fair? Tell them that. I’m sure they will all agree with you. They deserve to be, at the very least, equal with those people of the ruling class, but they’re not. And if you tell the Cojuangco’s and other major land owners in the country to be fair, they’d just laugh at your face or maybe promise you things, but all you get are empty words. Worse, you might end up getting killed.
Believe me, I’ve had my share of NPA terror stories. And those stories didn’t change my mind one bit. I’m not saying that I support what NPA does, but I’m not saying I don’t either. And really, we don’t have to assume that they’d do the same thing that North Korea did. That’s taking the issue a little bit far.
And maybe you’ve had very bad History professors. People Power has never been about the number of people who attended it. Whoever told you that should be shot to death. Honestly speaking, I’ve never even known the number of attendees until now. May attendance ba? No. People power is about (morally) fighting for (what’s perceived as the) the common good. And I feel the need to reiterate that what’s legal isn’t necessarily moral, and v/v. No wonder you don’t believe in People power - it’s just unattainable with the number of apathetic and apolitical individuals in the society. And that’s why [most/some] activists are always careful to take into consideration the minorities, the marginalized groups in the Philippines, since so many people ignore them.
I’m not about to try to change your mind about your low view of activists and activism in general. You’ve expressed your desire to break the Philippine republic many times before, and I respect that. It’s what you think, probably because it’s the solution to your problem (eg, land ownership). You always give the Philippine-resident Chinese people as your example, but don’t discard the fact that some, if not most, Filipinos are just like them. I have many misgivings about the Pinoy mentality (classic example is this celebrity adulation), but sometimes I just can’t blame them because they get thrown into situations which they don’t know how to break away from. They do everything in their power to stand up, but those who are at the top keep pushing them down.
this year will be the first time that I will excercise my right to vote, and I am hoping that I make the right choices. No to celebrities in the senate!
In my opinion, such youth who joined/will be joining the New People’s army are the type of people who wants “change.” At, least they are trying to do something instead of just whining like most of us Filipinos do.
But you know, even though how much people struggle, even though how much our society change, there would always be people who goes along and goes against. Because we people have different opinions and we people can never be satisfied.
you were really meant to do it. but I dont really believe in NPA, i dont believe in guns, and violence. Ive read about the NPA in Time magazine (nakasuscribe kami sa Time and Newsweek, rofl), and they kill people just because they refuse to do what the NPA wants them to do. I dont really think people should die. oh well. it’s something na hindi maaavoid when alot of people are in poverty and walang gumagawa ng way para maiayos maski konti.
sa 22o lng hnd ako makarelate sa lht ng sinabi mo excpt un nka blockquote hehe
anyways ang mhal mhal ng tuition normally kung san mahal pag grad mo you’d end up pang unemployed ang dmi kayang gnun wala lang..
I’m not talking about the NPA who are fighting face to face with the military but the top officials at NPA… If Joma is sincere, why on earth is he at the Netherlands while his “alagads” are the ones in confrontation. These people are not different from those whom they are against. NO WONDER THE PHILIPPINES IS F-UCKED UP. Ang kapwa magnanakaw galit sa kapwa magnanakaw. Praise the NPA? More innocent people will be caught in the middle of the crossfire… while Joma is enjoying a comfy life in Holland. I’m not sure with what I’ve heard from an acquaintance but he mentioned to me that some activists are collaborating with the NPA. It’s not far that they want monopoly of the state. I really pray that the Philippines will be disbanded before the Philippines take over.. because in the Cordilleras, only Abra has NPA presence. The CPLA has long cut its ties with the NPA….
Now where is the genuine passion for change??
Yes, give them the power to rise up…but is that what people are doing? No. A good example is the debate on Parliamentary. THE ANTI CHA CHA WILL SAY THAT THERE IS NO MAXIMUM TERM LIMIT; BUT WILL NOT THEY SAY THAT IN A PARLIAMENTARY FORM, THERE IS NO MINIMUM TERM LIMIT TOO? This is not educating the people, this is deceiving them. If we really want to help the people, give them the full information and let them decide.. not like what most of us are doing, giving half full information for them to “favor” us. It’s the same logic that is to be applied.
Now are we giving the people the FULL information… or the information that we know will convince them and hide the ones that will not convince them??
My opinion of PP was not shaped by “bad” professors, but by personal observations of Filipinos. PP(especially the second 0ne) is not really people power but using of the people. Isn’t it that many pro-pp2 people looked down at the people on PP3? What happened when Cory took over? Isn’t it that many(from “edsa dos”) labeled them(those from “edsa tres”) as “bobo”, “pulubi”, “mababaho”, “tanga”…She sold almost all government-owned assets rather than reviving it for additional National Income…What happened when Erap was ousted? Was Gloria better? Look at the present politicians, they’re still the ones who were politicians during Marcos’ time. When will Filipinos learn… Why are the Marcoses still in politics despite the f-ugly image of the late dictator??? There must be something wrong then with the Filipinos. Filipinos often cry foul regarding political dynasties, but they are the ones voting for the relatives of previous politicians…
Wonder why I don’t believe in PP2?
Did Cory really run because she thinks the Filipinos are oppressed? It’s funny when she made the statement at the height of the kudeta threat. Has she forgotten that she faced several (failed) kudetas? Yet hardly anyone pointed that out.
IT’S A CHAIN REACTION. I’m starting to believe the adage “We get the government we deserve”. The choices we make today dictate the future we will have.
PP2 common good, maybe we can count with our fingers who really are for the common good during rallies… some people, they are just carried away, but they have no idea what on earth are they there for.. The Hacienda Luisita is a long time issue… 1950 or 60’s pa..how come the activists only strongly reacted to it when that incident happened when they know the situation for a long time? Where now is the genuine passion for reforms??
And now, here comes the hypocrisy on wage increase. Most likely, we would have a bigger inflationrate before people have the purchasing power…. If these militants are for genuine reforms, they will target the lowering of basic commodities not a higher wage. If they target for lower basic commdities, everybody will benefit.. the farmers, the laborors, the professionals, businessmen, etc…
The Philippines does not need another people power revolution but a CULTURAL revolution. All of the People Power have failed(in terms of changing the country…only successful in ousting who’s seated)… thus, it’s proven to be ineffective in the Philippine setting.
KT: I agree with you 75%. I know, I’m aware, and I have the same sentiments. And you know we can add many more to what you’ve already said.
So why do we have to concentrate on Joma and his top minions? He exiled himself, it’s his decision, but everyone else here in the Philippines are still left fighting. Why don’t we concentrate on them even for a while? Joma isn’t only their inspiration but the Filipino people. The CPP-NPA-NDF can still function without Joma because what’s driving these people is their love and passion for the Filipinos. Kung galit ka kay Joma, magalit ka sa kanya, wag sa ibang taong totoo naman sa puso ang pinaglalaban nila.
Yes, there are activists who collaborate with the NPA. Old, old news. Kaya nga maraming pinapatay na aktibista diba, dahil lagi silang pinaghihinalaan na NPA kahit wala namang katibayan? Hindi naman dinedeny yan eh, pero ang nangyayari kasi sa gobyerno, kolektibo ang pinagbibintangan nila. Tulad ng ginawa ni Esperon na naglabas ng vid na front ng CPP ang LEGAL organizations tulad ng Gabriella, Bayan, KMU, KMP, etc. Eh hindi naman lahat ng myembro dyan ay holistic ang pagiging progresibo. Sektoral yang mga org na yan eh. Ang isang taong kasapi ng Gabriella ay ipinagtatanggol ang karapatan ng kababaihan, pero hindi ibig sabihin nun na suportado na niya ang NPA kahit kunwari may mga myembro na sinusuportahan ito. Eto lang ang common ground nila, tulad ng mga estudyanteng walang org na tutol sa tuition increase kaya nakikisama sa pagtutol dito. Oo, may mga tibak na nagiging NPA, pero yun ay sarili nilang kagustuhan, dala ng “pangangailangan” nila na baguhin ang sistema sa Pilipinas. But I cannot speak for them all. Questioning their beliefs is, in a way, disrespectful.
And by the way, no, Abra isn’t the only place in the Cordilleras where there’s NPA presence.
I’m sorry pero kaya ang pinepresent ng anti-ChaCha yung mga negatives ay dahil ang pnpresent ng pro-ChaCha ay positives. Counter-argument lang ito. Kaya nga ang linya ng mga pro-ChaCha ay “dapat malaman ng mga tao na ganito ganyan ganire” dahil hindi rin naman nila alam yun. Tapos maglalabas uli ng panibagong statement ang mga pro para i-counter yun, at lalabas uli ang mga anti ng isa pang counter. Publis debate lang ito. Isa pa, pag nagkakaroon kami ng educational discussions, we talk about both the negatives and the positives. Just because the people you know and the people media cover are those who argue at only one side doesn’t mean that ALL of us are like that. Ako, ang sinusulat ko lang dito karaniwan ay yung mga hindi ko pala alam tungkol sa mga bagay na yan. Na kaya pala sinasabing ChaCha would lead to state abandonment of the education ay dahil sa ganyan.
And really, we all have our own biases.
I agree with the long paragraph about People Power. Those are my frustrations too. But need we give up? Sige, isisi sa Pinoy, pero tandaan mong Pinoy ka rin. Totoo naman eh, kahit naman sino mabbwisit na bakit ganun, pinatalsik mo siya pero ganun pa rin? Political dynasties, bulok na sistema. Kaya nga may kumikilos eh. I won’t argue with the need for cultural change, dahil totoo, pero ang sa akin lang, buong pagbabago ang kailangan. Dahil kung mananatiling negatibo ang pananaw ng lahat sa mga ganito, aba, no wonder walang nangyayari!
Re: Hacienda Luisita, wag aktibista sisihin mo kundi ang media. Matagal ng issue sa hanay ng mga tibak ang HL. Like I’ve mentioned before, hindi dahil yun ang nakikita mo o yun ang alam mo, yun lang ang nangyayari. At napansin lang ng media yung HL dahil sa massacre, pero maraming tibak na ang nakiki-integrate dyan long before the issue.
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lowering of basic commodities not a higher wage
Oh, please, pray tell, how can we do that? Eh since nakatali ang piso sa dolyar, na ang sukatan ng success ng ekonomiya ng Pilipinas ay kung gaano kataas ang piso laban sa dolyar, mas imposible pang mangyari yan kesa sa wage increase.
Jericho: Harsh reality - that there are people who can barely afford the Philippine education and are sometimes forced to join the NPA because of it. No, CPP-NPA-NDF are not the strongest recruiter of the party…it’s poverty.
Interestingly, your name’s initials reminds me of the CP’s KT-KS (Komiteng Tagapaganap ng Komite Sentral) or executive committe in English… hahaha. Just kidding.
Also, waging a “CULTURAL REVOLUTION,” as you put it, is part of the NDF’s 12-point program and the CP’s own program for its “revolution.”
Don’t worry. I’m no fan of people who espouse armed struggle but I do view their grievances as legitimate. Just passing by to point out some interesting facts.
I despise the NPA. I don’t believe in what they fight for. They just say that they’re pro-people but look at those who are the the top position(they’re uberly rich just like the people they bash); they’re not the people. They don’t represent the ones they claim they represent. The NPA is using the people. All they want is to take over and monopolize the state… Deception….
I’m not pro “empowering the oppressed”(because the idea does not necessarily mean FAIR treatment at all)… I am pro working our asses off and getting what we really deserve. I am pro FAIRNESS. Some people who are at the bottom deserve to be there because they wait for miracles to come rather than finding ways to improve themselves. While some people at the top deserve to be there because they started from scratch and made their way up FAIR and SQUARE. Besides, it’s not difficult to “pass” as oppressed.
In applied communism, nobody gets what they deserve..those who deserve less get more of what they deserve; those who deserve more get less of what they deserve. If we allow the NPA to dominate the state, we will end up like North Korea. They have money for nuclear projects but no money for buying food. Freaky. It is not far that the NPA will do the same thing if ever they take over. I’d rather have a disbanded Philippines rather than them taking over.
I had a classmate who is from an NPA-dominated area in Tarlac. Baka magbago isip mo kapag narinig ko mga kuwento niya.
The only way to get the Philippines going is encourage people TO WORK THEIR ASSES OFF. Nobody can help ourselves but US; but the sad thing here is MOST Filipinos have the “gimme-gimme” mentality and self-pity syndrome. It’s not about being oppressed or being on top(because even people on top are being oppressed and discriminated against), it’s about working our asses off. It’s the culture that’s pulling the country down..The tamaditis and crab mentality syndromes. You think those “beggars” in the overpass in Baguio are poor? Heck, they’re even richer than the middle class. Yung isa kong classmate, nakita niya yung isang “pulubi” nagwithdraw sa ATM ng maraming pera.
It’s still a million dollar question to many Filipino how the ethnic Chinese were able to pull themselves up.. The answer is already there but it seems that many cannot see it.
The Wowowee incident is a proof that Filipinos what INSTANT money. They want money but they don’t want to work for it. Hinihintay na mahulog ang mangga mula sa puno.
Remember that the ww2 was a great equalizer. Even the people of Spanish descent had to start from scratch but they were able to recover…how come not the native Filipino? I’m now convinced that JUAN TAMAD is your typical Filipino.
The ethnic Chinese in the Philippines didn’t have these… look at where they are now. They were once notoriously discriminated against(50’s and 60’s) but now, they are the captains of our economy. Once upon a time, they were underdogs of the society… now they run our economy(maybe if not because of them, we wouldn’t have any economy right now). The ethnic Chinese were already starting to climb up the socio-economic ladder at the height of discrimination against them; when Marcos abolished many anti-Chinese legislature and granted many Philippine-born Chinese Filipino citizenship, it accelerated their participation in the NATIONAL ECONOMY. Sad thing though, because of jealousy of the non-Chinese majority, they are made scapegoats for all the country’s woes.
Not unless we GENUINELY learn from our mistakes, nothing will happen. Most likely, we’ll remain like this for a long time. FIlipinos keep on repeating the same mistakes…ALWAYS. That’s why I don’t believe in “people power revolution”. Especially the second one. 1 million, 2 million who protested?? Come on, it’s not democracy9which is rule of the MAJORITY). When Marcos was ousted, there were 2 million(daw) who participated out of the 65 million Filipinos. During Erap, it was 1 million out of 80 million(Manila with a 12 million population… still not the majority)… What the Philippines have right now is pseudo-democracy.– voice of the NOISY minority disguising as the “majority”.
Do what your heart tells you. Look at me. I can’t sing, can’t dance, have no theatre experience, and heck, I didn’t even know I’m ANYTHING BUT an alto, but I still went and auditioned for Avenue Q!
KT: I believe I’ve answered most part of your comment in earlier discussions about this. So instead, I’m gonna say that you have your own set of beliefs, reinforced by your friend from one NPA-infested town in Tarlac. And that generalization is not a very good idea when it comes to this thing. Not all NPA members are what you make them out to be. There’s bound to be a black/whitesheep in a group of people.
Re: empowering the oppressed, it doesn’t mean that we’d give (almost) absolute power to them, rather, give them power to fight for themselves and claim what’s rightfully theirs in the first place. And note the keyword you used: some people are there because they deserve to be there. That’s not even most. And as one foreign businessman puts it during the Martial Law era, not all working capitalists are opportunistic bourgeois, and vice versa. But then, our theories only extend to what our experiences are; and in mine, 99% of the people I know work their asses off, giving their all, but still more down than ever. If you’d give me a valid explanation why that’s the case, I might agree with you that it’s the typical Pinoy “Juan Tamad” mentality. But until then, I stick to the fact that while some people do wait for their blessings without doing nothing, most Filipinos deserve more than what they’re getting right now. The farmers and fishermen all work harder than both my parents put together, and they get a measly amount of money everyday. You want fair? Tell them that. The workers in Hacienda Luisita used to get PhP9.50/week, and they work more than 8 hours/day. You want fair? Tell them that. The farmers work hard to produce the food we eat, but still they have no land of their own, thanks to the greedy landlords who hold majority of the Philippine’s lands and still get a large percentage of the farmers’ money. You want fair? Tell them that. I’m sure they will all agree with you. They deserve to be, at the very least, equal with those people of the ruling class, but they’re not. And if you tell the Cojuangco’s and other major land owners in the country to be fair, they’d just laugh at your face or maybe promise you things, but all you get are empty words. Worse, you might end up getting killed.
Believe me, I’ve had my share of NPA terror stories. And those stories didn’t change my mind one bit. I’m not saying that I support what NPA does, but I’m not saying I don’t either. And really, we don’t have to assume that they’d do the same thing that North Korea did. That’s taking the issue a little bit far.
And maybe you’ve had very bad History professors. People Power has never been about the number of people who attended it. Whoever told you that should be shot to death. Honestly speaking, I’ve never even known the number of attendees until now. May attendance ba? No. People power is about (morally) fighting for (what’s perceived as the) the common good. And I feel the need to reiterate that what’s legal isn’t necessarily moral, and v/v. No wonder you don’t believe in People power - it’s just unattainable with the number of apathetic and apolitical individuals in the society. And that’s why [most/some] activists are always careful to take into consideration the minorities, the marginalized groups in the Philippines, since so many people ignore them.
I’m not about to try to change your mind about your low view of activists and activism in general. You’ve expressed your desire to break the Philippine republic many times before, and I respect that. It’s what you think, probably because it’s the solution to your problem (eg, land ownership). You always give the Philippine-resident Chinese people as your example, but don’t discard the fact that some, if not most, Filipinos are just like them. I have many misgivings about the Pinoy mentality (classic example is this celebrity adulation), but sometimes I just can’t blame them because they get thrown into situations which they don’t know how to break away from. They do everything in their power to stand up, but those who are at the top keep pushing them down.
You want fair? Tell them that.
this year will be the first time that I will excercise my right to vote, and I am hoping that I make the right choices. No to celebrities in the senate!
In my opinion, such youth who joined/will be joining the New People’s army are the type of people who wants “change.” At, least they are trying to do something instead of just whining like most of us Filipinos do.
But you know, even though how much people struggle, even though how much our society change, there would always be people who goes along and goes against. Because we people have different opinions and we people can never be satisfied.
you were really meant to do it.
but I dont really believe in NPA, i dont believe in guns, and violence. Ive read about the NPA in Time magazine (nakasuscribe kami sa Time and Newsweek, rofl), and they kill people just because they refuse to do what the NPA wants them to do. I dont really think people should die. oh well. it’s something na hindi maaavoid when alot of people are in poverty and walang gumagawa ng way para maiayos maski konti.
sa 22o lng hnd ako makarelate sa lht ng sinabi mo excpt un nka blockquote hehe
anyways ang mhal mhal ng tuition normally kung san mahal pag grad mo you’d end up pang unemployed ang dmi kayang gnun wala lang..
I’m not talking about the NPA who are fighting face to face with the military but the top officials at NPA… If Joma is sincere, why on earth is he at the Netherlands while his “alagads” are the ones in confrontation. These people are not different from those whom they are against. NO WONDER THE PHILIPPINES IS F-UCKED UP. Ang kapwa magnanakaw galit sa kapwa magnanakaw. Praise the NPA? More innocent people will be caught in the middle of the crossfire… while Joma is enjoying a comfy life in Holland. I’m not sure with what I’ve heard from an acquaintance but he mentioned to me that some activists are collaborating with the NPA. It’s not far that they want monopoly of the state. I really pray that the Philippines will be disbanded before the Philippines take over.. because in the Cordilleras, only Abra has NPA presence. The CPLA has long cut its ties with the NPA….
Now where is the genuine passion for change??
Yes, give them the power to rise up…but is that what people are doing? No. A good example is the debate on Parliamentary. THE ANTI CHA CHA WILL SAY THAT THERE IS NO MAXIMUM TERM LIMIT; BUT WILL NOT THEY SAY THAT IN A PARLIAMENTARY FORM, THERE IS NO MINIMUM TERM LIMIT TOO? This is not educating the people, this is deceiving them. If we really want to help the people, give them the full information and let them decide.. not like what most of us are doing, giving half full information for them to “favor” us. It’s the same logic that is to be applied.
Now are we giving the people the FULL information… or the information that we know will convince them and hide the ones that will not convince them??
My opinion of PP was not shaped by “bad” professors, but by personal observations of Filipinos. PP(especially the second 0ne) is not really people power but using of the people. Isn’t it that many pro-pp2 people looked down at the people on PP3? What happened when Cory took over? Isn’t it that many(from “edsa dos”) labeled them(those from “edsa tres”) as “bobo”, “pulubi”, “mababaho”, “tanga”…She sold almost all government-owned assets rather than reviving it for additional National Income…What happened when Erap was ousted? Was Gloria better? Look at the present politicians, they’re still the ones who were politicians during Marcos’ time. When will Filipinos learn… Why are the Marcoses still in politics despite the f-ugly image of the late dictator??? There must be something wrong then with the Filipinos. Filipinos often cry foul regarding political dynasties, but they are the ones voting for the relatives of previous politicians…
Wonder why I don’t believe in PP2?
Did Cory really run because she thinks the Filipinos are oppressed? It’s funny when she made the statement at the height of the kudeta threat. Has she forgotten that she faced several (failed) kudetas? Yet hardly anyone pointed that out.
IT’S A CHAIN REACTION. I’m starting to believe the adage “We get the government we deserve”. The choices we make today dictate the future we will have.
PP2 common good, maybe we can count with our fingers who really are for the common good during rallies… some people, they are just carried away, but they have no idea what on earth are they there for.. The Hacienda Luisita is a long time issue… 1950 or 60’s pa..how come the activists only strongly reacted to it when that incident happened when they know the situation for a long time? Where now is the genuine passion for reforms??
And now, here comes the hypocrisy on wage increase. Most likely, we would have a bigger inflationrate before people have the purchasing power…. If these militants are for genuine reforms, they will target the lowering of basic commodities not a higher wage. If they target for lower basic commdities, everybody will benefit.. the farmers, the laborors, the professionals, businessmen, etc…
Or maybe, Filipinos are historically oblivious??
The Philippines does not need another people power revolution but a CULTURAL revolution. All of the People Power have failed(in terms of changing the country…only successful in ousting who’s seated)… thus, it’s proven to be ineffective in the Philippine setting.
know what? yung new people’s army, sila yung mga HUKBALAHAP nung time ng japanese here sa phil. hehe
Read this from Christian’s site
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Hmmm … This sounds familiar Shari … I don’t know if this should be a compliment, an insult or what … *scratches head*
do what your heart tells you to do Shari
KT: I agree with you 75%. I know, I’m aware, and I have the same sentiments. And you know we can add many more to what you’ve already said.
So why do we have to concentrate on Joma and his top minions? He exiled himself, it’s his decision, but everyone else here in the Philippines are still left fighting. Why don’t we concentrate on them even for a while? Joma isn’t only their inspiration but the Filipino people. The CPP-NPA-NDF can still function without Joma because what’s driving these people is their love and passion for the Filipinos. Kung galit ka kay Joma, magalit ka sa kanya, wag sa ibang taong totoo naman sa puso ang pinaglalaban nila.
Yes, there are activists who collaborate with the NPA. Old, old news. Kaya nga maraming pinapatay na aktibista diba, dahil lagi silang pinaghihinalaan na NPA kahit wala namang katibayan? Hindi naman dinedeny yan eh, pero ang nangyayari kasi sa gobyerno, kolektibo ang pinagbibintangan nila. Tulad ng ginawa ni Esperon na naglabas ng vid na front ng CPP ang LEGAL organizations tulad ng Gabriella, Bayan, KMU, KMP, etc. Eh hindi naman lahat ng myembro dyan ay holistic ang pagiging progresibo. Sektoral yang mga org na yan eh. Ang isang taong kasapi ng Gabriella ay ipinagtatanggol ang karapatan ng kababaihan, pero hindi ibig sabihin nun na suportado na niya ang NPA kahit kunwari may mga myembro na sinusuportahan ito. Eto lang ang common ground nila, tulad ng mga estudyanteng walang org na tutol sa tuition increase kaya nakikisama sa pagtutol dito. Oo, may mga tibak na nagiging NPA, pero yun ay sarili nilang kagustuhan, dala ng “pangangailangan” nila na baguhin ang sistema sa Pilipinas. But I cannot speak for them all. Questioning their beliefs is, in a way, disrespectful.
And by the way, no, Abra isn’t the only place in the Cordilleras where there’s NPA presence.
I’m sorry pero kaya ang pinepresent ng anti-ChaCha yung mga negatives ay dahil ang pnpresent ng pro-ChaCha ay positives. Counter-argument lang ito. Kaya nga ang linya ng mga pro-ChaCha ay “dapat malaman ng mga tao na ganito ganyan ganire” dahil hindi rin naman nila alam yun. Tapos maglalabas uli ng panibagong statement ang mga pro para i-counter yun, at lalabas uli ang mga anti ng isa pang counter. Publis debate lang ito. Isa pa, pag nagkakaroon kami ng educational discussions, we talk about both the negatives and the positives. Just because the people you know and the people media cover are those who argue at only one side doesn’t mean that ALL of us are like that. Ako, ang sinusulat ko lang dito karaniwan ay yung mga hindi ko pala alam tungkol sa mga bagay na yan. Na kaya pala sinasabing ChaCha would lead to state abandonment of the education ay dahil sa ganyan.
And really, we all have our own biases.
I agree with the long paragraph about People Power. Those are my frustrations too. But need we give up? Sige, isisi sa Pinoy, pero tandaan mong Pinoy ka rin. Totoo naman eh, kahit naman sino mabbwisit na bakit ganun, pinatalsik mo siya pero ganun pa rin? Political dynasties, bulok na sistema. Kaya nga may kumikilos eh. I won’t argue with the need for cultural change, dahil totoo, pero ang sa akin lang, buong pagbabago ang kailangan. Dahil kung mananatiling negatibo ang pananaw ng lahat sa mga ganito, aba, no wonder walang nangyayari!
Re: Hacienda Luisita, wag aktibista sisihin mo kundi ang media. Matagal ng issue sa hanay ng mga tibak ang HL. Like I’ve mentioned before, hindi dahil yun ang nakikita mo o yun ang alam mo, yun lang ang nangyayari. At napansin lang ng media yung HL dahil sa massacre, pero maraming tibak na ang nakiki-integrate dyan long before the issue.
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Oh, please, pray tell, how can we do that? Eh since nakatali ang piso sa dolyar, na ang sukatan ng success ng ekonomiya ng Pilipinas ay kung gaano kataas ang piso laban sa dolyar, mas imposible pang mangyari yan kesa sa wage increase.
Question. What did you mean by “stark reality?”
Jericho: Harsh reality - that there are people who can barely afford the Philippine education and are sometimes forced to join the NPA because of it. No, CPP-NPA-NDF are not the strongest recruiter of the party…it’s poverty.
KT,
Interestingly, your name’s initials reminds me of the CP’s KT-KS (Komiteng Tagapaganap ng Komite Sentral) or executive committe in English… hahaha. Just kidding.
Also, waging a “CULTURAL REVOLUTION,” as you put it, is part of the NDF’s 12-point program and the CP’s own program for its “revolution.”
Don’t worry. I’m no fan of people who espouse armed struggle but I do view their grievances as legitimate. Just passing by to point out some interesting facts.
Cheer up!
Shari,
Edjop was chairman of the NUSP (National Union of Students of the Philippines), not NUJP (National Union of Journalists of the Philippines).