Philippine Universities Drop Ranks; UP Now 398th
Last year, University of the Philippines barely managed to grab a spot in the Top 300 universities in the world according to a study conducted by Times Higher Education Supplement and QS Top Universities.
- 299 - University of the Philippines
- 392 - De La Salle University
- 484 - Ateneo de Manila University
- 500 - University of Santo Tomas
Although I’m not exactly very fond of ranking anything, I’m still disappointed in this year’s world ranking result, released early this month.
University of the Philippines drops from 299 to 398 (scroll down to the bottom). Ateneo now outranks La Salle as it moves 33 steps forward, taking the 451st spot and pushing the latter to 519th. UST gets the 535th slot in the ranking.
Ahhh, bullshit! There are so many far more important things that need to be done than worry about numbers and rankings. Yes?
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Whoa, UP is actually 398. Well out of the number of universities in the world, it’s pretty amazing already that they’re in the top 400. I mean there could be like 394859723 universities out there right?
My university ranks in 235. Kinda meh, since I was expecting better and it was 156 last year.
And yes, there are far more important things in life than worrying about numbers and rankings
That is indeed a bit disappointing!
Whoohoo! And there’s my alma mater @ No. 45!
Eh, but lately it hasn’t mattered where I went to school… in terms of getting a job. Networking, experience and good communication skills play bigger factors… in scoring jobs.
Actually, no one… in my entire working life… has EVER asked me what my GPA was… or anything about my education… in interviews. No one.
Yes, there are far more important things than rankings, but it is a gauge of things… and while you or I may not care, other people do. People who do the hiring… i.e. international jobs. I suppose OFWs would care about their school’s reputation. Dunno.
hmmmm
Hmm.. My school isn’t even on the list, I think. But I don’t mind. Nasa estudyante naman yun eh..
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As much as we don’t like to care about rankings we have to, UP is one of the best if not THE best university here in the Philippines and still it’s not good enough compared to other countries.
It’s disappointing but right now there’s really very little we can do about it…or maybe I’m just losing all hope.
No wonder so many Filipina nurses come here to the US and can’t pass the NCLEX. The passing rate used to be 23%, but went up dramatically in the late 2000s–then it was discovered that most of them were cheating. There’s an ongoing investigation.
The results you’re looking at must depend on which study you go by. On the ARW site, there isn’t a single PI University in the top 500.
(shrugs)
otto hahn looneyversity isn’t on it, but the engineering achievers of that campus are all around the globe — and bossing around the maroons, the greens, and the blues, as well as others.
seriously, though, it’s a sad thing that noypi schools are in a state of decline — and in terms that are measurable instead of merely opinion.
Oh Noes.
UP, why hath you dipped so low?
Aside from the increasing lack of funds on private AND public schools, the STUDENTS’ study habits LARGELY contribute to the decline of education in the Philippines. Leakages, cheating…just for the sake of passing? Reminds me of my Acctg102 class. Kala mo ke gagaling dahil sobrang taas ang nakukuha, but they’re very skilled at cheating. Not all students are like that, of course. But these kinds are not hard-to-find. It’s a lose-lose situation, sadly.
If UP is at no 398, san pa kaya ang Cavite State University? 3998th? Or lower??
Lol.
Anyway, I don’t believe that job opportunities depend on the school, or the rank of school you came from. But I believe that schools who are reputable with good quality education can bring out the best of students who might have been self-orienting and not accomplishing anything, as in the case of that guy named Neil Es2pido.
Woohoo my Uni is at the 53rd.. i wouldn’t consider this ranking as a big deal coz at recruitment scenarios, they look more at personality, technical experiences, and your communication & interpersonal skill the foremost.
For everyone who went to Philippine schools who feel bad about this, don’t give a damn on this. Don’t make yourself feel bad.
I’ve visited the Philippines on a number of occasions. What I saw there was a culture of corruption. Until you all–as a nation–teach good moral character and exect it from your children, politicians, community leaders, etc., corruption will flourish at all levels. This corruption at all levels is what keeps the PI so poor (the only thing keeping the economy afloat are the Filipinos working abroad sending money home). American friends of mine have tried to start businesses there, but everyone from the town mayor, police, and up want bribes–and they’re like flies on Sh*&–they keep coming back for more! Then their employees kept stealing everything not nailed down. When we visited the PI, we couldn’t even leave our hotel in Manila without our driver being pulled over by corrupt police officers (our drivers did nothing wrong) who demanded bribes or they would arrest our driver (for nothing!). This happens daily. It is very sad how totally corrupt things are over there–it’s even sadder that Filipinos accept all this corruption as “normal” behavior. This issue with PI schools being so poor is only a symptom of the massive public corruption over there and the willingness of Filipinos to accept it.
It sad that only 2 (UP and Ateneo) made it in the 500 cut-off.
Ateneo improved its rank (yay 
) though but most had lower values. 
Of course this makes us happy but it would have been better if more universities in the country made the cut-off.
Ouch. At least nasa 500 mark pa ang UP. Tama yung isang commenter, nasa estudyante naman yun eh. Numbers are just.. well, numbers.
oh I wish I went to a much greater school than my school. *sigh*
anyway, moved to a new domain :P please visit and please change my link if you still have it!
it’s the centennial year of the UP!
hopefully this new ranking result will be one of the guideposts on how the university plans for the next one hundred years.
yes, the students and alumni are the best adverts that can disprove any ranking result but the world thrives on stats and figures. best to somehow address that just dismiss it altogether in one fell swoop as unimportant.
so, to all alumni of the UP, let’s fill the gap government is unable or unwilling to cover. rather than merely lament about the sad new rankings, let’s give back more to our alma mater-as a way of showing gratitude on how it helped us get to where we are and as a way of showing that we are willing to invest in our country’s future.
the centennial year is a start! more opportunities to help from http://www.up.edu.ph
Mabuhay ang Pilipinas!
I hear its because its not accredited. Is that true? There are quite a number of teachers from the philipines that try to get jobs out here on Guam, but their degrees don’t apply here because of lack of accreditation,
so we, ust, are now out of the top 500 universities
awwwwww
Woah! Ang laki ng binaba.
Ahh, let’s just think positive about this. At least our country still have representatives in the chart.
Actually kaya naman siguro bumaba ang ranking natin, or should I say mababa talaga ang ranking natin, kasi naman hindi lang sa kagalingan ng mga estudyante binabase yung ranking. Kasama dyan ang mga facilities, buildings, mga benefits para sa students at empleyado, atbp. Eh wala naman tayo lahat niyan. Hahaha.
I wonder what’s number 1.
how disappointing
Yeah actually your right @hyro it is also based on the facilities, building etc… Another thing is that our university here is not like the university in other country, for sure pag nakapasok tau or even study in other country will be amazed and will realize na kaya pala mas maganda mga university sa iba kasi they are rich country, they can provide complete facilities. I think that is one good reason also. Thanks
@mon
I believe Harvard’s number 1.. while Tokyo University ranked first in Asia.
Oh well.. I don’t really know what to say or rather, where do we start from here?
at times like this.. nagmamanifest lang yung sinabi sa Bible…
Proverbs 29:2
When the righteous thrive, the people rejoice; when the wicked rule, the people groan.
damay… social, economic, even sa education
misconceptions. the university of the philippines may have indeed ranked lower at the moment BUT it does NOT mean that UP has stopped honoring excellence.
no. that’s not it. this ranking system was based from a lot of factors (e.g. facilities), and not purely from the method of instruction the university implements.
MIND YOU GUYS, if you could only visit the university of the philippines, and take note of its facilities. you will see why UP “dropped” in the ranking.
the facilities are quite obsolete compared to other universities yet students managed to study and excel in many fields.no wonder.
the UNIVERSITY OF THE PHILIPPINES has “dropped from the ranking mainly because the GOVERNMENT OF THE PHILIPPINES has “dropped” its support.
and one thing more, why do you, people, blame UP?
it’s not the only university in the philippines right?
why don’t you just blame and criticize your own university instead of criticizing mine?! I HATE CRAB MENTALITY. besides, all of your criticisms are mainly based from hear-say.
allow me to quote from elvis presley,
“DON’T CRITICIZE WHAT YOU DON’T UNDERSTAND BECAUSE YOU’RE NOT WALKING IN THAT MAN’S SHOES”
ano pang aasahan mo. well, that mustnt be the case… at least we’re still on the chart ayt?!
@BS Math- dont be to overwhelm of what your saying many of the readers here are just giving only their opinions remember we are all open-minded here were not a fighter- its good to depend our own but always remember “ALWAYS listen to the others opinion”
…Thanks
I think the one major reason for this is the quality of the Education…There’s a lot of taking board exams now a days take advantage on cheating from the cellphones, etc, i heard that from the news a week ago.
We should be honest of what we are doing.
Thanks, Joefrey
I agree in part with Jeofrey. However, numerous factors are responsible for the low ratings of PI schools. The Times Study this rating is from is generous. Take a look at this rating–it’s reputable:
http://www.arwu.org/ranking.htm
Numbers are not “just numbers” as other posters have written above. That’s the “ostrich with its head in the hole” approach to this issue.
Problems for PI universities include:
1. Lack of funding and support from the government.
2. The Filipino cultural acceptance of low standards of behavior (cheating, “do-just-enough-to get-by” attitudes, lack of personal discipline, etc) from students. These attitudes follow many immigrants to the US and it doesn’t reflect well on them in First World countries.
3. The “brain drain” from the PI due to the corruption in govt (no real industries being developed, so no high paying jobs avaiable).
If the PI ever got it’s act together, there are enough talented and intelligent people there to raise the standards of not only schools, but everything else.
to mark abucayon, check your english, no wonder Phil univs rank so low….
Rankings shmankings! Rankings can be helpful at some point but you just shouldn’t just leave that as everything! you know? :suspicious
Rock has a very fitting monicker. As in–”dumb-as-a- Rock.” His attitude is the reason the tangible rankings of PI schools (and too many other things in the Philippines) is so pathetically low. Sigh……another ostritch.
I am so disappointed with our university system. Due to the high ranking of peso nowadays, the budget for education should also increase, thus, bettering the facilities and standards of our universities.
I lost a bit of school pride at this precise moment. La Salle now at 519th? What a disappointment!
i’m a product of the UP system from college to medical school, and to see its prestige relative to the rest of the world drop so much is heartbreaking.
if i remember correctly, this ranking system is a composite not only of student factors but also faculty and compensation of the faculty — which we all know we lag behind at. in medicine alone, most of our clinical professors work without compensation!
we really need a bigger budged for education - or we’ll see the numbers at an even worse point come next year.
Bumaba na talaga value ng education natin, nahirapan na mga university to rank high…sigh!
kinda disappointing, yes..
but life moves on even with these poor rankings
I lived in Belfast, Northern Ireland, UK for a year and manage to study at Belfast Institute for free after passing a computer programming aptitude test. The study program is known as IT Professional Academy and it was organized to fill up the demand for IT jobs in Northern Ireland. One of the examinations administered during the course is the Europan Certification of Informatics Professionals (Core Level) which I passed without having a resit (meaning I did not retake the exams). I have heard that most of the students have to resit the exams until they pass. I experienced a very comfortable educational experience in terms of student support and the quality of the computing facilities provided to us. However it is the quality of teaching (delivery of lectures), the content of subject matter being taught, andthe manner in which students are assessed in the form of assignments, examinations and projects that turned me off. Philippine standards of teaching and assessment (even if you exclude UP, La Salle, Ateneo and UST and other institutions in NCR and good provincial institutions) is far better than what I experienced here.
The Philippines, based on my observation as an individual who is conscious about educational standards, actually has an excellent pool of high school graduates. In the UK secondary school students do not have to pass all of the subjects they have taken to proceed to the next level of education, which they refer to as A Levels. Let’s say some UK secondary school students hate physics and chemistry, they don’t have to sit for and pass an exam in physics and chemistry and they could just settle pass the requirements for GCSE (General Certificate of Secondary Education) subjects like maths (covering only arithmetic and very basic algebra), English language and literature, some social science subjects like socology or psychology. Whereas a Filipino with a high school diploma has at least a passing grade in his/her biology, geometry, chemistry, physics, advanced algebra, in some high schools calculus.
After secondary school and after earning a set of 3 or 4 GCSEs, a UK student will proceed to what is known as A Level studies for two years and students are only required 4 or 5 subjects, for example English Language and Literature, Maths, Psychology, and Accounting. Other tougher combinations maybe pursued such as Physics, Maths, Chemistry and Electronics. A Level studies is usually the requirement for university admissions in the UK. Whereas in the Philippines a high school diploma is earned by a 16 year old to proced to university while A Levels are usually earned by an 18 year old. I have entered for 3 A Level exams (Mathematics, Physics and Chemistry) as a private candidate (meaning I did not attend classes and depended on reading textbooks and doing practice test during the weekend because I am doing full time work during the week days) and the exams are very similar to high school level exams of excellent Philippine high schools. I did not do well in the test but the coverage is still very familiar to me.
There are a lot of Filipino nurse working in Belfast whose children are studying in local schools there. To my surprise ordinary Filipino elementary and high school students are the outstanding students in some Belfast schools. I now live in London and one of the observations that we Filipinos have here is the standard of UK education. One of my house mates is tutoring Filipino children and he discovered how lax the system of education is in London. There are Filipino nurses working in hospitals in London and who are qualified to assess BS Nursing students from Middlesex University and City University of London. They have given failing marks to some UK nursing students who are in their final year. “Madami daw tangang estudyante ng nursing dito sa UK,” and not to mention spelling. Another house mate of mine who is working as a nurse in the University College Hospital judged the assessment/evaluation system for UK nursing students as “walang kwenta, puro na lang reflection papers ang ginagawa nila.”
I was suppose to study BS Electronics and Communications Engineeing at the London Metropolitan University. I was offered a place but since I am not yet a resident of UK the fee that I have to pay is around £7,500 per year, cost of student living not included. Saan kaya ako magnanakaw ng PhP600,000+++ kada taon. I applied for the course as a mature student and after a telephone interview the condition for admission required is that I have to pass a math test and I don’t have to be tested on my communication skills or present an IELTS (International English Language Testing System) certificate. So I took a 40-item math test and manage to finish it in 20 minutes with a perfect score. Yes, I got a perfect score for a test equivalent to a grade 6 math test. But I must say the facilities at London Met is impressive, well at least for a Filipino. They do circuit analysis using a computer and the electronics laboratory is well equiped and up-to-date; all they need is a class of diligent students.
The ranking is not so much based on the instruction, content of the currilum and the assessment/evaluation system so Philippine colleges and universities have all the reason to celebrate. I’m very thankful I studied in the Philippines.